Showing posts with label Gods wrath. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Gods wrath. Show all posts

Sunday, 11 September 2011

Two views on 9/11 from the Pope and a muppet

Two interesting views on 9/11 emerged today; one from Anne Graham Lotz, daughter of Billy Graham (a man who Christopher Hitchens said is "disgustingly evil" and "sick and twisted" in a brilliant TV interview) and the second from no other than Pope Benedict.

We'll start with Yahweh's representative on earth first who said:

"It is my fervent prayer that a firm commitment to justice and a global culture of solidarity will help rid the world of the grievances that so often give rise to acts of violence and will create the conditions for greater peace and prosperity, offering a brighter and more secure future."

It is a credible ambition and call to reason but it's clear that the Pope was referring to acts of terrorism being caused by "grievances". In other words, people do bad things because they are unhappy. And this is a view shared by Ron Paul who says that "U.S. intervention in the Middle East is a main motivation behind terrorist hostilities toward America, and that Islam is not a threat to the nation."

An argument that would gain credibility were it not for the very, very, very limited number of terrorist campaigns and incidents that occur. Extreme poverty, famine and oppression continues to exist in a number of sub-Saharan states yet these hard pressed people are not compelled to blow people up indiscriminately. 

Indeed, the 9/11 hijackers did not come from hard pressed backgrounds at all being mainly middle class, privileged and seemingly "normal" in the grand scheme of things. Not only does this make Ron Paul's comment stupid but the Pope seems to be a worthy bedfellow.

The second comment from Anne Graham Lotz is fucking stupid beyond all doubt. It makes me want to vomit all over my keyboard. Twice. Lick it up. And then vomit three more times. And I feel like this any time I read the bullshit that comes from the religious mind wrapped up in unprovable shite.

She says:

"We've been telling him [god] to get out of our business, out of our government, out of our schools, out of our marketplace. And then when something like this [9/11] happens, we wonder where he is,"

No, no, no. We don't have to wonder where he is. The fact that he is absent from every single major and minor event over the past 4.6billion years gives a pretty good indication that he doesn't exist.

"The Bible says that there's only one way to God, and that's through Jesus."

More contradictory bullshit because if this was the case, what happened in 1BCE? How would people have reached god before Jesus stepped foot anywhere on the earth? And the date of the New Testament presents more friggin' problems. Not to mention the BILLIONS who never had a hope in hell of knowing the word of the bible because they were DYING of HIV given to them in the womb by the cuntish creator who felt it necessary to kill a child before they could KNOW of the Jesus in the bible.

These people really do not stop and think before writing something do they?

Fuck.

More nonsense about the "end of days"...

"We see that in the storms, the floods, the forest fires," she said. "They're not only occurring more frequently, but when they occur, they break the record of the last one."

Says who? Who says they break the record of the last one? Who says they are getting worse?

Research indicates that "wildfires" have actually decreased in the 20th century - http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v1/n10/full/ngeo313.html

This graph shows that she is talking bollocks about hurricanes:



The only argument that could be made for an increasing number of reported storms/wildfires etc is exactly that... the fact that they are reported. You obtain a frequency by measuring storms in the same region. 

You can't say in region A there were 10 storms in 2009 and in 2010 there were 5 storms in region A and 15 in region B and then use this data to suggest that storm rates have doubled... 




I think that's a good place to end this... I've drunk far too much and I need some sleep... but I'll end on these.

Science flies you into space. Religion flies you into buildings. 

Religion also makes normally kind and decent human beings say and do horrible and wicked things.

My thoughts and sympathies are with the people who lost their lives to mammals with far too much faith in fairy tales. If only mankind could learn a lesson from this that religion will keep making excuses for itself in the face of atrocities and fail miserably to attribute proper blame. And if they were indeed as faithful as they claim, they would find good reason for dropping the ridiculous ideas of bliss in the next life.

The reason the bombers took their own lives, as well as others that day, is because they thought that they were going to paradise. Most religions converge on this idea of another life. This happy medium and general consensus from religious moderates allows the idea to prevail that something else is waiting. A very dangerous idea indeed.

If they knew, and I mean really knew, that this is the only life that we have then those hijackers might have thought that this life, and the lives of their fellow travellers, was too precious to waste.

Friday, 9 September 2011

God hates everyone

According to Jared Olar "natural disasters, plagues, famines, military defeats and incompetent or corrupt government are divine punishment"...

He also states that "Now, some of us have the silly idea that because we today have a much better understanding of how the weather works or where disease comes from, that means calamities can’t be divine punishment. That makes as much sense as saying that our increased understanding of biology means God didn’t create life."

Then "However, it’s also an oversimplification at best to see each and every bad thing that happens as a manifestation of God’s wrath as a direct or immediate expression of his will."

&

"Regrettably, many people who experience or witness calamity are too hasty to assign a meaning to it. Earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, wildfires, terrorist attacks, wars and rumors of wars … from the Christian perspective, yes, any of those things could be divine punishment for sin. But it’s presumptuous to make an assured pronouncement to that effect — not unless God has personally told you so (and odds are, he hasn’t and won’t)."

And so the circle is complete. 

He has effectively argued nothing at all. If I may have a god at putting his article into a more concise statement...

"God sends down from the heavens punishments galore to chastise his creation; don't let science fool you into thinking that it's an inconvenient truth that hurricanes do not decimate towns in Britain where corruption is rife or that famines do not happen in Italy where corruption is expected... that would introduce facts into the debate which I just cannot have. 

No, no, no... god definitely does all of these things. 

But don't be silly in thinking everything is god's wrath. No, this is would be ridiculous. God is lovely when he is not being an utter cunt. No, instead natural disasters happen all the time. It's just you won't know when it's god because he won't tell you. And even if he did personally tell you I would doubt it because that would be empirically impossible to prove and make you look like one of them backwater hillbillies who claim to have been anally probed by aliens* and give the reasonable, logical religious people a bad name. 

What you need to do as a Christian is be rational and just blame any natural disaster you see fit on the wrath of god and put it down to a demonstration his omnipotence whenever the feeling strikes you without a single shred of evidence. Be creative. Only then can you be a truly rational and reasonable person of faith by telling the lies, that god caused [insert event] to people you comfort  to make you sound theologically relevant (even if god hasn't told you and chances are he hasn't and won't... errr... ever)."

There, I think that sums up Jared's article pretty well. God clearly hates everyone otherwise why would there be any need to punish the innocent? And innocent lives are always lost regardless of the "fall of man" position taken in these matters which is used to explain everything from language to why there are different races.

Just don't let facts cloud your pious mind... god has a plan... even if you don't know what it is, can't explain it or have no evidence for that position. Best leave it to the priests eh?




* Yes, I have a fascination at present with alien anal probing. Don't ask me why, it might frighten the children.